Tesco plan to build store on Broadlands Estate near Romsey
12:25pm Friday 13th January 2012 in News
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A SUPERMARKET giant has announced plans to build a store on a historic Hampshire estate.
Tesco wants to develop six acres of land at Broadlands, near Romsey.
The chain, which yesterday announced disappointing Christmas sales figures, said it had identified a need a for midrange supermarket in the town, which is already served by up-market Waitrose and
cut-price chain Aldi.
A new store would create 200 jobs, the retailer claims. Broadlands says that if the scheme is approved it will generate “crucial financial security” for the 4,500- acre estate, the family home of
Lord and Lady Brabourne.
The store would be built on a rarely used site known as the Fairground Field, south of the town’s bypass.
If approved the proposals could see the bulldozing of six homes owned by Broadlands in Burma Road. Lady Brabourne has already visited the tenants in these houses to inform them of the scheme.
Broadlands says it will find alternative accommodation for those for whom it has a legal obligation to do so and would also try to help other tenants find new homes.
The plans are in their infancy and as yet Tesco, whose slogan is “Every Little Helps”, says it has not decided where on the site the store and its parking will be positioned or how it will be
accessed.
The firm would not say exactly how big the store would be but confirmed it would be larger than the Romsey branch of Waitrose, would stock non-food items as well as groceries and would probably
have a coffee shop.
There are no plans for a petrol station to go alongside the store.
Following the completion of surveys on the site there will be a public consultation exercise involving meetings and exhibitions through the spring before a planning application is submitted to Test
Valley Borough Council (TVBC) in the summer.
Broadlands is anxious not to see a repeat of the public hostility generated by a previous supermarket plan, put forward by the then Lord Romsey in 1986, to develop land off the bypass. That was met
with protests from many who believed it would tear the heart out of the town centre and lead to a rift between the town and the estate.
Linking the edge of town store with the centre of Romsey would be a key part of the planning process.
Broadlands and Tesco point to a recent shopping survey, carried out on behalf of TVBC by the University of Southampton, showing that almost 40 per cent of
those living within five minutes of the town centre did their food shopping outside Romsey and this would stem that migration as well as pulling in more shoppers from out of town.
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Tesco said that the new store would offer three hours free parking giving shoppers ample time to visit the rest of the town.
Director of estates at Broadlands Richard Jordan- Baker said: “The cost of maintaining an estate of this size and stature is extremely expensive and rising every year. While the estate is diverse
as a business with residential lettings, commercial tenants, investments, and, of course a series of highprofile events, these alone do
not ensure financial stability.
“We will working closely with all parties involved in the project and have already spoken to our tenants, the football club and other local stakeholders.”
Tesco corporate affairs manager Simon Petar said: “We are very much looking forward to working with the community in Romsey to explain fully our plans, over and above the benefits that the store
and it associated jobs would bring.”
Safety Net
CASH from a deal with Tesco would be a huge boost to the Broadlands estate and house and would provide what director of estates Richard Jordan- Baker described as “a safety net” for the future.
The Palladian mansion is nearing the end of a £5m refit which included the installation of a new wiring and new biomasspowered heating system.
Mr Jordan-Baker admitted that although the sale of the Broadlands Archive had covered around half the cost the rest still needed to be found.
He also said that the estate was home to several dilapidated listed barns and other agricultural buildings which Broadlands was required to maintain even though most of them were unlikely to ever
earn any revenue.
Comments(52)
Huffter
says…
12:31pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Noise could be a problem for local people if the supermarket giant keeps saying “Fee-Fi-Fo-Fum”.
Huffter
Pikey Pete
says…
12:33pm Fri 13 Jan 12
So long as it is Called “Diana’s” No problem.
Pikey Pete
Snowstorm
says…
12:38pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Looks good! Creation of jobs such as this should be encouraged
Snowstorm
Goldenwight
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12:49pm Fri 13 Jan 12
How many new supermarkets does Hampshire need- isn’t that the third one announced this month (Sainsbury’s in Portswood, Morrisons in Soton)?
If these people really fulfilled all of their claims, we’d no longer be a ‘nation of shopkeepers’ but a ‘nation of shelf stockers!’
Goldenwight
Frank28
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12:53pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Broadlands must be in dire need of cash. Tescos will pay handsomely, and their smart lawyers will overcome any obstacles or objections from the local Council.
Frank28
Stillness
says…
1:02pm Fri 13 Jan 12
I wonder if we will ever see his and her lordships in the checkout ques.
Stillness
Brock_and_Roll
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1:04pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Not my patch but the article here looks like it has been copied and pasted almost directly from a joint press release by Tesco and the Estate!
I see from the aerial photos the “development line” for Romsey lies on the bypass. To the north is the town and all the houses, shops etc, so the south is the Estate parkland and the football cricket clubs – a very pleasant scene indeed.
A Tesco on the site would ruin the vista and set a precedent but I guess that is a matter for the local authority.
I am sure others here will point out however, that we do not owe the Battenbergs/Knatchbu
lls a living. Given Broadlands long history and nationally important owners, it would be good to see the place go to the National Trust
Brock_and_Roll
Brock_and_Roll
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1:06pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote:
I wonder if we will ever see his and her lordships in the checkout ques.[/p][/quote]You wont see his lordship – he naffed orrff to the Caribbean in 2010 “to start a new life”
Brock_and_Roll
555Luke
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1:10pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don’t see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing fund raise. Don’t spend £5m on a refit.
555Luke
555Luke
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1:10pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Once again Tesco strikes again. It may create 200 jobs for Tesco, but what about the impact on other businesses in the town that may be forced to close down. Not to mention the disruption to the families forced to move from their homes. The impact on the roads and surrounding town. Romsey already has; Aldi, Waitrose a Co-op, not to mention enough coffee shops to go to a different one everyday! I really don’t see that a Tesco is required. If Broadlands is having financial difficulty, then cut back like everyone else is doing fund raise. Don’t spend £5m on a refit.
555Luke
Vix1
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1:18pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!!
Vix1
Peppa33
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1:30pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!!
Peppa33
Brock_and_Roll
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1:39pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Peppa,
Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site?
Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.
Brock_and_Roll
Stillness
says…
1:41pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.
Stillness
romsey_boy
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1:55pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Speaking for at least half the local community!!! I didn’t see the voting station open for that role.
Romsey doesn’t need another supermarket. We have several and people have cars and can go online.
No doubt the council will agree and other bit of green country side will be lost..
romsey_boy
St Retford
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2:00pm Fri 13 Jan 12
If Tesco want to build here then they will. Our planning laws make it impossible for people to object in a meaningful way, and a media which is hopelessly sychophantic towards the supermarkets will do their bit to get public opinion onside.
It does all make me think of that Joni Mitchell song where she complains ‘They paved paradise to put up a parking lot’. And whilst this may indeed alleviate congestion on the outskirts of paradise, it will nevertheless be another perfect corner of England gone forever.
*stares wistfully out of window*
St Retford
lukolela
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2:03pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Stillness wrote:
Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!!Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.
Yes, which half Peppa?
If indeed half the town wish to shop at Tesco, and not supporting local businesses in the town – do so and leave the history and beauty of Romsey for the other half to enjoy.
What happens next, Broadlands sell another bit of land, then another bit, then another until eventually the National Trust take over a dilapidated bankrupt house in the middle of a retail park???
In case you were wondering, I am the other half and have every intention of standing in the way of Tesco ruining the town forever.
[quote][p][bold]Stillness[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!!
We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!)
We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here.
We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town.
I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway.
Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Which 1/2 are you speaking for? Please provide a list of names so we can contact them for the planing application.[/p][/quote]Yes, which half Peppa?
If indeed half the town wish to shop at Tesco, and not supporting local businesses in the town – do so and leave the history and beauty of Romsey for the other half to enjoy.
What happens next, Broadlands sell another bit of land, then another bit, then another until eventually the National Trust take over a dilapidated bankrupt house in the middle of a retail park???
In case you were wondering, I am the other half and have every intention of standing in the way of Tesco ruining the town forever.
lukolela
Danae
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2:08pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Site is coloured green on the adopted Local Plan map, so Countryside policies apply, namely:
SET 03:
DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTRYSIDE
Development in the countryside (i.e. outside the boundaries of settlements defined by Policy SET 01 and shown on the Inset Maps) will only be permitted if:
There is an overriding need for it to be located in the countryside; or
It is of a type appropriate in the countryside as set out in Policies SET 06 – 13, ESN 05-09, ESN 11, ESN 13 – 14, ESN 23 -25 and ESN 27 – 33.
Conclusion:
This Echo-printed press release is mere kite flying by Tesco and Broadlands.
Danae
Pedant
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2:21pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.
Pedant
Over the Edge
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2:28pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Peppa33 wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!!Peppa,
Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site?
Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.
Scenic views don’t pay the bills.
It’s help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote:
Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Peppa,
Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site?
Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.[/p][/quote]Scenic views don’t pay the bills.
It’s help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.
Over the Edge
Lone Ranger.
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2:49pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Pedant[/bold] wrote:
Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.[/p][/quote]The idea in in 1986 was to build a Tesco where the Romsey FC ground is.
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On condition it was built the football club would be offered a new plot of land just outside Romsey and close to Mountbatten School.
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Whilst the idea has been banded about for for some 26 years no further progress has ever been made.
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However with the changes at Broadlands i.e. Lord and Lady issues there is every possibility that this will get the green light should it go to full planning or so i understand.
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As far as it goes the only real land that will be used is the area adjacent to the rogby and football ground that is used for camping the ocassional fairground and the yearly visit of the circus…. so no great loss
Lone Ranger.
St Retford
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2:57pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Over the Edge wrote:
Brock_and_Roll wrote:
Peppa33 wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!!
Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.
Scenic views don’t pay the bills. It’s help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.
Study after study has shown supermarkets cost more jobs in the local community than they create.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.[/p][/quote]Scenic views don’t pay the bills. It’s help the estate, local community then so be it, we all the creation of 200 jobs will be mostly part-time but a job is job in these times of economical meltdown, good luck to all concerned.[/p][/quote]Study after study has shown supermarkets cost more jobs in the local community than they create.
St Retford
St Retford
says…
3:01pm Fri 13 Jan 12
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.
St Retford
aldermoorboy
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3:03pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate.
Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.
aldermoorboy
Shoong
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3:13pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]’Forced to work’.
How traumatic for them.
Shoong
southy
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3:14pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote:
Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!![/p][/quote]Tesco in Shirley where abouts is that one unless your on about the small Tesco Express shop.
southy
southy
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3:17pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]’Forced to work’.
How traumatic for them.[/p][/quote]And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.
southy
moulefanggoule
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3:21pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote:
Great news, Tesco is a great British success story. Everyone wins, shoppers,jobs, promotion opportunities, lower prices,choice and money to maintain a great estate. Only Waitrose,Co-op and ALDI need worry and that is competition.[/p][/quote]I’m sure waitrose aren’t worried. I don’t think they’ll notice. Waitrose shoppers will always shop there over tesco. The few that want a slightly cheaper and poorer quality shop will continue to use Aldi and the new tesco.
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What makes me laugh (I’ve heard this from a few people so not a crazy story!) is that people in Romsey who say that waitrose is ‘posh’ and ‘expensive’ will quite happily drive to either Morrisons in west Totton or Sainsbury’s in Lordshill to save a few quid. By the time you calculate fuel costs, time and effort there is probably only a marginal difference.
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The same people who drive 10 miles to a cheaper petrol station to save 1p per litre!! fools!
moulefanggoule
St Retford
says…
3:29pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]’Forced to work’. How traumatic for them.[/p][/quote]And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.[/p][/quote]I didn’t know that. Cheers. The whole scheme is ludicrous – Tesco gets free labour and people who actually want jobs can’t get them.
St Retford
Sovietobserver
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3:30pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Perhaps Lady B and Richard Jordan-Baker are at this very moment sat with their teams of financial investment consultants making plans for the rest of Broadlands Estate.
With 4,500 acres available they could create Battenburg Retail Park which could be in direct competition with Hedge End, or The Knatchbull Centre to compete with West Quay, and all with free extensive car parks. It would take all that hassle of travelling into Southampton with its extortionate parking charges and accompanying pollution and gridlock.
Another area could be allocated for car boot, all open seven days week.
They may be willing to contribute towards new infrastructure, in the way of an extension of the M271 a couple of miles northwards from the roundabout at Romsey golf course, and through their estate.
Sovietobserver
chrisdemeanour
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3:32pm Fri 13 Jan 12
This should help devalue the Romsey area nicely, loads more imported Chinese junk flogged off cheap, and jobs probably to be filled by immigrants. more traffic, all for money, money money! don’t care anymore!
chrisdemeanour
southy
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3:35pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]’Forced to work’. How traumatic for them.[/p][/quote]And the Government is being taking to court over the matter up in Manchester I think, It seems there is a law being broken here that is little known about, still trying to find out details over the matter, but it is being brought up and taken to court by the Youth for jobs Org.[/p][/quote]I didn’t know that. Cheers. The whole scheme is ludicrous – Tesco gets free labour and people who actually want jobs can’t get them.[/p][/quote]I only learned about 2 days ago, just done a quick check its in Derbyshire not Manchester.
It was on radio 5 live, the Youth fight for jobs are taking the matter up.
southy
eurogordi
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3:37pm Fri 13 Jan 12
I’m not sure it should be the evil people known as Tesco who are intent on world domination, but I am sure the people of Romsey will joint together to resist any part of Broadlands being developed.
But the facts are simple. The estate is in private ownership and the cost of of maintaining such properties is enormous. There may be grants available from English Heritage, but these are often small in comparison to the work required.
Lord Romsey may live in a mansion, but that does not mean he has ready cash and has to raise capital or risk selling the estate to non-British billionnaires. What would the people of Romsey prefer? Tesco’s or foreigners?
eurogordi
Over the Edge
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3:43pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people.
There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.
Over the Edge
Over the Edge
says…
3:47pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people.
There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.
Over the Edge
southy
says…
3:57pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people.
There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.
southy
housewife
says…
3:58pm Fri 13 Jan 12
HATE Tesco
will do all I can to help stop this
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The greengrocer, butcher, chemists, baker, toy shop and others will close if Tesco and their predatory pricing are allowed into Romsey.
housewife
Over the Edge
says…
4:12pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people.
There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter.
The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.
Over the Edge
aldermoorboy
says…
4:45pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Housewife, give people what they want. If they wanted small shops instead of multiples then it would be an area where small shops prospered.
You must be very rich. prices in Tesco are 15 times lower than 150 years ago relative to wages ( The Grocer mag).
Tesco’s and other multiples have helped the average person have a better standard of living. It is one of the UK ‘s success stories employing around 500,000 world wide, don’t knock a UK success.In future we will need successes like TESCO if we want to survive and prosper as a country.
aldermoorboy
St Retford
says…
4:48pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?
St Retford
Lone Ranger.
says…
4:59pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?[/p][/quote]I think that you will also find is that the young person involved was a Uni student who could not get a job so she did voluntary work for three days a week in a museum hoping that she would gain more experience in this field.
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She was the forced to give up her volutary job to “earn” her dole working for Poundland
Lone Ranger.
Over the Edge
says…
5:04pm Fri 13 Jan 12
St Retford wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
southy wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
St Retford wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.
This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.
I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.
It might be.
Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.
Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?
I know, it’s all about CaMoron and Cleggs attack on the unemployed, making themselves look good.
Yes we have scroungers who bleed the benefits dry, however not all people are doing this.
It’s about the Tories offering free labour for their friends in the business world, not one employer will offer these people paid employment all the time they can it for free.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?[/p][/quote]I know, it’s all about CaMoron and Cleggs attack on the unemployed, making themselves look good.
Yes we have scroungers who bleed the benefits dry, however not all people are doing this.
It’s about the Tories offering free labour for their friends in the business world, not one employer will offer these people paid employment all the time they can it for free.
Over the Edge
Stillness
says…
5:06pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Pedant[/bold] wrote:
Same debate as in 1986. Lord Romsey (as he was then known) was apparently in dire need of cash and the family apparently is still struggling to make ends meet. We are all in this together we hear. What do you do when you are in this position?
1) Get a job.
2) Cut down on spending
3) Get a smaller house
What the Brabourne family do is entirely a matter for them but in their case the whole town gets dragged into their affairs.[/p][/quote]The idea in in 1986 was to build a Tesco where the Romsey FC ground is.
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On condition it was built the football club would be offered a new plot of land just outside Romsey and close to Mountbatten School.
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Whilst the idea has been banded about for for some 26 years no further progress has ever been made.
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However with the changes at Broadlands i.e. Lord and Lady issues there is every possibility that this will get the green light should it go to full planning or so i understand.
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As far as it goes the only real land that will be used is the area adjacent to the rogby and football ground that is used for camping the ocassional fairground and the yearly visit of the circus…. so no great loss[/p][/quote]No fairground or circus! I hope Tesco sell clothes pegs then.
Stillness
Over the Edge
says…
5:06pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Lone Ranger. wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
southy wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
Over the Edge wrote:
St Retford wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.
This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.
I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.
It might be.
Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.
Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?
I think that you will also find is that the young person involved was a Uni student who could not get a job so she did voluntary work for three days a week in a museum hoping that she would gain more experience in this field.
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She was the forced to give up her volutary job to quot;earn” her dole working for Poundland
Sounds like what I heard, disgusting abuse of someone by a Government who couldn’t care less.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: What’s more, Tesco is now taking on the long-term unemployed who are being forced by government to work simply in order to continue to receive unemployment benefits, so many of the opportunities created won’t actually be proper jobs at all.[/p][/quote]This Government policy is disgusting, the coalition is disgusting for allowing business’s to exploit people. There is a European law stating that enforced working is illegal, there is challenge going through the courts by a graduate who is being forced to work in a £1 store.[/p][/quote]I don’t know if the same one Southy is relating too, I saw on the BBC news channel the other day.[/p][/quote]It might be.[/p][/quote]Sounds the same, the question I ask is, what purpose does it serve? how the hell can stacking shelves in £1 store be of any benefit to a graduate or anyone else for that matter. The Government are allowing exploitation of people for its political rhetoric, they should be working nail and tooth to put into place positive policies to create jobs therefore to create wealth.[/p][/quote]Agreed. Plus, what good does it really do the empoyer? Is someone reluctantly forced to work there for £50 a week actually going to do a good job or are they going to spend their time wiping their sweaty pits all over the food?[/p][/quote]I think that you will also find is that the young person involved was a Uni student who could not get a job so she did voluntary work for three days a week in a museum hoping that she would gain more experience in this field.
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She was the forced to give up her volutary job to “earn” her dole working for Poundland[/p][/quote]Sounds like what I heard, disgusting abuse of someone by a Government who couldn’t care less.
Over the Edge
Jimmy C
says…
5:13pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote:
Housewife, give people what they want. If they wanted small shops instead of multiples then it would be an area where small shops prospered. You must be very rich. prices in Tesco are 15 times lower than 150 years ago relative to wages ( The Grocer mag). Tesco’s and other multiples have helped the average person have a better standard of living. It is one of the UK ‘s success stories employing around 500,000 world wide, don’t knock a UK success.In future we will need successes like TESCO if we want to survive and prosper as a country.[/p][/quote]I’m with @Housewife… Tesco are dispicable and are totally responsible for the downgradng of the quality of food and animal welfare conditions in this country.
It’s exactly what Romsey doesn’t need.
Jimmy C
IanRRR
says…
5:50pm Fri 13 Jan 12
I am all for it. Romsey has become a tiny backwater, solely for the rich. Open it up and bring it on Tesco. The locals will fight it all the way, but it will be in vain…..
IanRRR
J.K.
says…
6:15pm Fri 13 Jan 12
Death knell for the town
J.K.
Huffter
says…
6:24pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.[/p][/quote]You can’t eat a historic view
Huffter
Stillness
says…
6:30pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Huffter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Brock_and_Roll[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Peppa33[/bold] wrote: Speaking for at least half of the local community I would like to say that I think it will do the town good!! We have sooooo many upper class shops in the town (that I couldn’t even afford to look in the window of!!) We need something of reasonable price, then perhaps people like myself, and many more I’m sure, would be able to shop here. We have nowhere to buy children’s clothes (unless you want to pay through the nose for them), and because Waitrose is so expensive and only holds ‘posh’ food I shop out of town. I hope the council come to their senses and allow Tesco to do it, after all the new houses being built on Abbotswood will bring lots more customers to Romsey anyway. Lets look after the ‘normal’ people for a change !!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Peppa, Nothing against Tescos or indeed any other supermarket…the question is whether its the right site? Once the parkland is gone, it is gone forever – my home town of Wimborne is a classic example. In the end big business and a greedy landowner (who just happened to be the former head of the planning committee!) got their own way and historic views of the minster were lost for ever.[/p][/quote]You can’t eat a historic view[/p][/quote]But you could grow food on it.
Stillness
100%HANTSBOY
says…
7:50pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]IanRRR[/bold] wrote:
I am all for it. Romsey has become a tiny backwater, solely for the rich. Open it up and bring it on Tesco. The locals will fight it all the way, but it will be in vain…..[/p][/quote]I agree,do you peasants realise how difficult it is to park ones’ Bentley in Rumsey at the mo,with Tesco’s free car park,one can access the town easier. Phnaaa!!
100%HANTSBOY
loosehead
says…
9:16pm Fri 13 Jan 12
[quote][p][bold]Vix1[/bold] wrote:
Yippee!! Closer than having to go to the Shirley one!![/p][/quote]Do you mean the Tesco store in Millbrook or the Sainsbury’s store in Shirley?
loosehead
loosehead
says…
9:23pm Fri 13 Jan 12
I don’t live in Romsey but please take a step back look at what the Barker Mills estate has done over the years in the Southampton area.
Rumour had it one of them needed some cash for a divorce settlement hey presto lets build some much needed homes in Redbridge Lane Nursling end put in some affordable houses we’re doing it for Nursling.
Then we’ll knock down 8-10 homes in Redbridge Lane do away with a lot of farm land sell the land to Lidls for a massive Warehouse which will bring 400 jobs.
What starts of as a small area ( 4 acres) could become a much larger part of that estate so beware if it’s what you want fine it has nothing to do with me as I live in Southampton( ex Barker Mills land) Lordshill
loosehead
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